Posted: Friday, August 12, 2011

Posted: 9/17/2003 11:03:28 AM

By: cyrille Emery
It sounds like there are a lot of lawyers on the boards of these entities. the title "Maitre" is usually reserved in Continental Europe to :
- Attorneys (Avocats),
- Notary Public (Notaire)
- Legal adviser holding the appropriate legal qualification (maitrise en droit).
This is a usage when you refer to them either in writing (Cher Maitre, Maitre XXX, ) or speaking (Bonjour Maitre..) etc.
The term "associate" may have either of the following meaning :
- The persons mentioned under this term take an active part in the day to day management of the entities but do not have the seniority required to be "partners".A sort of emulation of the organisation of law offices.
Or :
- The term has been losely coined in a consultancy contract between the different service providers. It sounds better if the consultant can claim being an "associate" rather than a consulting person. One has to smooth the ego of the consultant sort...
In both cases it is a way to deceive the clients into thinking they are dealing with a bona fide member of the entities.
In the case of Danny the key to the answer would lie in the contract between his company, Thales, and BC...
The problem is that when you are an associate, whether it is true or not and because you hold it out, you may face some of the liability of the company.


Posted: Friday, August 12, 2011


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Posted: 9/17/2003 6:31:01 AM
By: Hunter
Some of the names in the following information posted at Diligizer caught my attention. Since your name appeared in the post I was hoping you would know if the information is accurate and explain what it means to be an Associate.
Thanks,
Hunter
REPOST FROM DILIGIZER by registered user underground
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN!
Crozier Trust Services (Nevis) Ltd.
Hunkins Plaza
Mainstreet
Charlestown
Nevis
Saint Kitts and Nevis, W.I.
Directors:
- Maître Peter Johansson
- Maître Paul de Freiter
- Maître Mark Brantley
- Maître Scott Wilson CMA
Associates:
Mrs. Sharon M. Brantley, Maître Peter J. Lane, Maître Keithley F.T. Lake, Maître Danny L. Scheers, Maître Dr. Wilbert Bascom, Mrs. Natalie Elaine Glitzenhirn Augustin, Maître Mårten Törnquist, Mrs. Qia Munther, Maître J. Müller, Maître Gianni Di Bari, Maître Francis Hoogewerf & Cie, Maître Peter Farrell, Maître Duane J. Crithfield, Maître Philrose Bryan and Maître Marc Matthew Harris
representing:
- Bank Crozier (Grenada) Ltd.
- Bank Crozier (España) S.L.
- Bank Crozier International (Nevis) Ltd.
- Bank Crozier International (St.Lucia) Ltd.
- CapSouth Financial Management Systems Ltd.
- Capricorn South (Sweden) A.B.
- Capricorn South (Anguilla) Ltd.
- Capricorn South (Antigua) Ltd.
- Capricorn South (Bahama's) Ltd.
- Capricorn South (Cayman Islands) Ltd.
- Capricorn South (Gibraltar) Ltd.
- Capricorn South (Grenada) Ltd.
- Capricorn South (St.Lucia) Ltd.
- Crozier Corporate Services Ltd.
- Crozier Financial Services Group (España)
- Crozier Financial Services S.A.
- Crozier Financial Services (España) S.L.
- Crozier Financial Services Holdings (Luxembourg) S.A.
- Crozier Financial Management Services S.A.
- Crozier Holdings (Luxembourg) S.A.
- Crozier Securities (Panama) S.A.
- Crozier Securities (USA), Inc.
- Crozier Securities (Gibraltar) Ltd.
- Crozier Trading S.A.
- Crozier Trust Services, Inc.
- Crozier Trust Services (Nevis), Inc.
- E-pay (Sweden) A.B.
- Megasol Technologies S.A.
- Megasol Technologies A.B.
- Odyssey Offshore Banking Systems (Luxembourg) S.A.
- Odyssey Systems (Luxembourg) S.A.
"The diversity of our clients' nationalities and international locations has led us to establish cooperative relationships with leading institutions and correspondent banks on all continents. These banks are the interface between the Client and Bank Crozier. These relationships are forged with partners carefully selected from the ranks of the most highly respected and prestigious institutions, thereby ensuring the complete protection of our clients' assets."
  • Alliance Banking Group (St.Vincent)
  • Alliance Holding Company Ltd.
  • Allience Holdings Co. (Anguilla) Ltd.
  • Allience Holdings Co. (Bahama's) Ltd.
  • Allience Holdings Co. (St.Vincent) Ltd.
  • Allience Holdings Co. (Nevis) Ltd.
  • Fidelity Insurance Co. Ltd.
  • Fidelity Insurance Company (St.Vincent) Ltd.

"Fidelity Insurance Company (FIC) is a wholly owned subsidiary of Alliance Holding Company, (...) and is incorporated and domiciled in St. Vincent & the Grenadines, West Indies with offices in Freeport, Anguilla and Nevis."
others represented i.e.:
  • Antillen Trust (Curaçao) N.V.
  • Antillen Trust (Nevis) N.V.
  • American Trust Company Ltd.
  • Audit Royal S.A.
  • AXA Offshore Management (Nevis) Ltd.
  • AXA Offshore Management (Anquilla) Ltd.
  • Caribbean Trust Company (Nevis) Ltd.
  • Electra Leisure Venture Capital Group
  • ESL Securities
  • Fiduciaire Royal S.A.
  • First Fidelity Trust Ltd.
  • Hoogewerf & Cie
  • Inversiones Seguras (Bahama's) S.A.
  • Inversiones Seguras (Panama) S.A.
  • ITC Corporate Services Ltd.
  • Morison Anderson Trust Company Ltd.
  • Morison Anderson Company Ltd.
  • Meridian Trust Company Ltd.
  • Morning Star Holdings Ltd.
  • Nevis Services Ltd.
  • Offshore Company Registration Agents (Luxembourg) S.A.
  • Saba S.A.
  • TaxEngineering.com S.A.
  • Thales Securities (Panama) S.A.
  • The Marc Harris Foundation
  • Trust International (Luxembourg) S.A.
  • Voche Trust (Nevis) Ltd.
  • Westminster, Hope & Turnberry Ltd.

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Edited by: underground at: 9/17/03 9:08 am


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Anonymous

Posted: Friday, August 12, 2011

Posted: 9/19/2003 8:03:44 AM
By: I think getting information from Underground ....
I think trying to get information from person posting as Underground at Diligizer that supports his/her claims is a lost cause. Couldn't get the source of the list of Associates of Crozier nor a link to a working site with such a list. I thought my request for information on Thales (Nevis), if there is such an entity, was a pretty simple one but even that went unanswered.
Welcome to the world of message boards where some folks seem to post pretty much anything they want,
Hunter


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Anonymous

Posted: Friday, August 12, 2011

Posted: 9/18/2003 7:00:53 PM
By: Danny
Mr. Renner deleted the post as the poster could not back up any of his information. Worse yet, it was full of inaccuracies and it seemed his only intention was to hurt my business.
From his posts, I understood that he spoke in name of 3 investors who were about to loose their money, but he never stated with who they invested. Was he out on revenge against any and all offshore brokers? Did he invest with someone that also uses the name Thales (he mentioned Thales Holdings Nevis) and made the wrong assumption we were the same person? I don't know. He also mentioned San Cristobal once.
I even offered to help him/them since I'm half curious, half worried about a scammer using Thales as name, but then he went "No help needed, just want the truth blah blah blah...".
Guess all of his information is kinda inaccurate...
Regards
Danny


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Anonymous

Posted: Friday, August 12, 2011

Posted: 9/17/2003 1:33:10 PM
By: Thanks and posted your reply at Diligizer
Thanks and posted your reply at the Diligizer board in the thread where I first saw the list.
Hunter


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Anonymous

Posted: Friday, August 12, 2011

Posted: 9/17/2003 12:41:36 PM
By: Danny
I do not appear on the board of directors of any of those companies, nor have I in the past (apart from Thales Securities of course). I never use the term Maitre before my name, I'm not a lawyer, attorney or equivalent. Apart from the names of Mr. Brantley (I believe he works for Caribbean Trust Company) and Marc Harris, the names of the person mentioned don't even sound familiar.
We do not have a contract with any of the companies listed in that list. The closest resemblance to doing business is having referred a client to Caribbean Trust Company (Nevis) Ltd to form an IBC. I don't even know if the client formed his IBC and if, if he did it through them.
The only thing I can imagine is that Fidelity Insurance Company (FIC), or any of the others, picked up on our referral programm and -without signing our agreement- claim that they represent us, WHICH THEY DON'T.
I don't refer or have referred clients to BC and certainly not to Croztrade (who probably are competitors...)
I will visit the site mentioned and demand corrections.
Feel free to email me with any questions.